#119 Roundtable – Are Your Fans Stealing Your Music?

Are They Fans or Music Theives?Well it’s been debated all over the internet in recent weeks. An intern at NPR, Emily White, sparked a huge controversy in the music blogging world, when she admitted to not paying for all the music she owned.

We’ll explore both sides of the controversy and throw our thoughts into the ring. Plus, we’ve got the latest music news and more.

Check out the DIY Musician article mentioned in our podcast here

And for those who thought we’d thrown in our hats, we’ve just had a little less time to devote to new podcast episodes, but that doesn’t mean we’re not still fighting the good fight for independent musicians everywhere. Thanks for sticking with us!

  • Todays podcast covers ground we’re all familliar with. And as musicians we
    have heard these arguments time and time again.

    That said. I love this podcast. Feel free to recover topics, revisit guests,
    just keep them coming guys

  • Oh and to answer your tag line…. Yes

  • I know, 4 months was too long. We deserve a kick in the pants. 🙂

  • Shannonsongs

    Thanks to the transparency of the CD Baby account dashboard, we can all see how little income we’re receiving from streaming services. I met with a Spotify artist service rep over the weekend, and he said that we should be using Spotify as a promotional tool and treat the income we get from the service as “found money”. He said that most people between 10-25 yrs old have NEVER paid for music. The sad reality is that if you’re older than 25 you place more value on music. Those younger than that have never known a pre-Napster world.   
    I am trying to embrace the digital services, and while I agree that it’s amazing to have the convenience of Spotify, it makes me incredibly sad. I wish they would significantly increase the streaming rates.

  • Anonymous

    Most musicians I know are not making money these days and I fear it just escalates the financial divisions that exist in our culture and society already. “Kids” whose families who “have money” will have the financial freedom to make music (just as it’s always been, along with painting, filmmaking, acting, etc.) and people whose families do not have money will have to have a “real job” and not have the freedom to make music, or hope of making money from making music. I’m not interested in only hearing music from trust fund kids. 

  • Will there be any new episodes this year?

  • Kevin says yes 🙂

    The Bolt

  • I make the money I only to give it back – so no I don’t think of it as my fans are stealing my music I think of it as a learning curve and confidence booster for when the real money comes pouring in xxxxxxxx

  • Grace Testani

    How about when a member of your band posts your videotaped gig at Birdland on Youtube and facebook as if it was THEIR gig and uses your cd music that they played on in another video – again, as if it was theirs? No credits, no permission.  What can you do?

  • Dave Tate

    Last time I checked you guys were doing this out of the goodness of your music loving hearts while also working at Hostbaby and persuing your own awesome music. So I say take all the time you need. People who complain at you that you’re not giving them enough free info/advice need a bigger kick in the pants.

  • AllForMusic

    Couldn’t disagree more than that on this issue.

    Music has never been ”free” in any coherent society. Even in non-monetized tribes, the status and role of story tellers, musicians or shamans have always been privileged, supported and held as a connection with life, the cohesive force for the community, the invisible worlds and after death. The social glue provided by the artists enabled societies from the past to thrive for millenias. Internet hasn’t proved this longevity and I really don’t think it can sustain its actual structure and philosophy of ”free” sharing which firstly hurts creators: the artists at the source of the music business. Ignoring this, like lawmaking governments does, only prove the decadent and corporative gangsters mentality approach which have corrupted thoughts. If someone doesn’t like the music, the solution is simple: DON’T DOWNLOAD IT! So why people are downloading music if they don’t like it and don’t listen to it??? Big lie. If music is an indulgence, then why bothering getting it ? People could just continue spending their money on junk food, car repair, new technology gadget, pack of cigarettes, wool sweater for the dog, colorful shirt or anything they please. But are all these things free?

    Music has never been free because it is made of blood, sweat and tears of the artists. Why only the time of artists should be free? The real and dedicated ones which invested thousands of hours to refine their art. Saying music is free is a huge decoy because when artists wont be able to get income, like it is happening now, they will leave and quality will suffer. Humanity will pay the price by quality degradation, insanity and densification in material cheap soup of ignorance and complacency. The sign that a civilization has reached the bottom if its downward movement. Art is the medicine of the soul and though it comes to us free, it can never be free in the type of society we have constructed. If not, than all type of works should be free and money system should disappear completely. If we’re not ready for this step, than it should be revised completely in other to sustain the creators, NOT the the parasites and leaches benefiting from it.

    Music was NOT free before you were born. I was earning 20 times more from albums made before internet then now. Yes, there was bootlegging, but it didn’t stopped the whole industry from paying artists and piracy was an anomaly, not the norm. What we’re witnessing in this decadent age of the Kali Yuga, is a collusion of the major internet distributors taking more commission for less work and investment, paying half (or quarter of the price), sometimes not reporting sales, and on top having agreements with the ”new” corporative government collusion of collection agencies, which don’t pay artists (and don’t want to enforce copyright protection by strong muscle and effective laws on new technologies to ensure security). I get about thirty time less from performance/mechanical royalties, than I had 20 years ago due to these new digital collection agencies system.

    This is deeply wrong on all levels and thinking that music is free will only compound the problem without bringing any benefits to the correction of this huge mistake.